Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?

i keep hearing people saying that batman can beat any character in a fight, even superman. but the only reason he can beat anyone is with his gadgets and weapons. if he had none of those, he wouldnt stand a chance against super powered people. why are people always overrating him?Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?To answer your question, no, of course he couldn't.



As for the first three people who answered, Batman has already taken down Superman before. Multiple times. Yes, it was with the help of Kryptonite, and gadgets, and various other convenient utilities, but the job was done. Your opinions do not equal fact, so stop making ridiculous statements like "Batman can't do that" when there are various sources pointing at the fact that it's been done already. Please refrain from arguing if you aren't knowledgeable on the subject.



Go read The Dark Knight Returns.

Go read the Hush storyline.

Go read The Red Son, and any other comics where the two face off.



Each time, Batman remains victorious. Fact.Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?
Not in the least.



Batman may be the World's Best Detective, he may be one of the strongest non-powered heroes ever written, but without Kryponite, there is no possible way that he could best Superman. It is easy to see, when you look at the statistics.



Strength - Superman Multi-Mega ton. Basically, there is nothing on Earth that he cannot lift or move, and in fact he has moved the Earth, AND moved gears on a machine that dwarfed the Earth/Moon System. Batman on the other hand can bench press 1000 lbs. (I think that is what DC Database said).

Invulnerability - Superman, nearly invulnerable, with the exception of Kryptonite, certain Magic-based attacks, and sometimes Aliens with tremendous strength, such as Darkseid, and Doomsday, nothing can Truly hurt him. Batman, without his gadgets and such, he is vulnerable to virtually any attack, as no matter how tough he is, he is still a non-powered human being.

Powers - Superman has a vast array of other powers, the most popular being flight, Heat Vision, X-ray vision, and Super Strength among other things. Batman, on the other hand, has nothing, except for his Amazing mind. He may seem Super, but he has his limits.



To answer your last question, I have no idea why people are always overrating Batman. He may be a great character, and he may be able to handle the majority of the superheroes out in the world, but people like Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Supergirl, the Martian Manhunter, and other heroes that have strength that are in the Multi-Mega ton range really cannot be beaten by Batman. I guess his winning in fights against these heroes are just the DC writers trying to keep these people grounded in reality.Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?Without any of that stuff he couldn't, the only believable story of Batman beating Superman is from "The Dark Knight returns".



I guess Batman fans say he can beat anyone because he is their favourite. They wont hear a word against him like he's a family member or something. Its sort of annoying, like a 7 year old who doesn't understand reason yet.



Fans should just argue that he is the best character, not that he can beat anyone because he cant.
Without access to his gadgets or kryptonite, Batman cannot beat Superman. Superman is invulnerable and has super strength, without kryptonite to weaken him or red sun lamps to stimulate his native sun to bring him down to human level, Batman would be unable to land a hit that would do something.Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?People are overrating him b/c he is just a regular person with high tech gadgets and anyone can become him with a good amount of wealth and intelligence. There are more similarity between us and Batman than us and Superman, that why people look up to Batman. And yeah Batman can't beat Superman even with the gadgets.Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?
No



If he has no access to those things then of course he can't win. He maybe able to use his environment but that won't get him far unless he is in a weapons hangar or something.



But removing those things from Batman is like removing super powers from Superman.
If Batman can get Superman into an environment that mimics red-sun conditions, it's not a contest. STAR Labs could probably come up with something.Without gadgets and weapons and kryptonite, can batman still beat superman?
Batman cant beat anybody!

Psh.
batman can't beat super man even with the gadgets!